What does it take for a marriage to not just survive, but thrive over decades while pursuing meaningful work and kingdom impact? In this episode of Leveraging Success, Jeff Gerhardt sits down with Marcus Sun, co-owner of Ren Athletics, to explore how couples can deepen intimacy, strengthen their family, and grow together in faith.
Marcus and his wife Kelly reflect on 15 years of marriage, sharing how they navigate career changes, parenting, and spiritual growth while intentionally building a relationship that evolves over time. Jeff and Marcus dive into practical strategies for moving from a functional partnership to an intimate union, including tools to communicate the “last 2%”—the hidden thoughts and feelings that unlock relational depth.
This episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone looking to cultivate a thriving marriage, impactful family life, and a faith-centered approach to leadership.
In This Episode:
[00:00] Episode Intro & Guest Setup
[01:20] The 15-Year Marriage Reflection
[03:10] Goal #1: From Functional Partnership to Intimate Union
[05:00] Jeff’s Framework: The “Last 2%” of True Intimacy
[07:25] Understanding Assumptions & Spiritual Warfare
[09:00] The Mutual Learning Tool
[12:40] Marcus’ Vision for the Next 15 Years
[15:10] Legacy & Spiritual Impact
[17:00] Goal #2: The Unrepeatable 15-Year Window with the Kids
[18:45] Goal #3: Preparing for Peak Contribution Years
[20:30] Practical Tools for Intimacy & Alignment
[22:10] Final Encouragements & Prayer Posture
[23:30] Closing Notes & Episode Wrap-Up
Notable Quotes
“Intimacy is how much of a hidden life do I have versus how much of an exposed life I have.” – Jeff Gerhardt
“The last 2% is where real vulnerability allows for growth and deeper connection.” – Jeff Gerhardt
“Our first 15 years were about building a foundation; now we want relational closeness that can’t be shared with everyone.” – Marcus Sun
“Action breeds momentum. Weekly, I slow down and listen to what God is prompting in my heart to share with Kelly.” – Marcus Sun
“Marriage intimacy is not just physical—it’s emotional, spiritual, and mental connection that grows over time.” – Jeff Gerhardt
“We want to be agents of hope, showing God’s faithfulness through our marriage, family, and ministry.” – Marcus Sun
Our Guest
Marcus Sun is co-owner of Ren Athletics, a brand specializing in volleyball and athletic gear. Married to Kelly for 15 years, he is passionate about faith-driven family leadership, relational intimacy, and creating multi-generational impact. Marcus focuses on integrating professional success with meaningful family and kingdom influence.
Resources & Links
Marcus Sun
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcus-sun-13ab9b50/
Jeff Gerhardt
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffgerhardt/
Resources
Life Balance Assessment – https://lba.priorityliving.org/
Leveraging Success Podcast- https://www.leveragingsuccesspodcast.com
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